Anyway,Phiggy,I found something on this topic. It's from 6 years ago though:
After her best friend's death, Heard met her first serious boyfriend, who introduced her to the writings of Russian-born atheist Ayn Rand. "I've read all of her books," says Heard, who was raised Catholic. "Ever since then, I have been obsessed with her ideals. All I've ever needed is myself." usatoday30.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2007-05-29-amber-heard_N.htm
Mmm Hmmm oh man did you know that for Ayn Rand there is also an institute? yeahhh students and the like. For those here that aren't familiar with Rand:
Ayn Rands view: To her, philosophy is a subject of tremendous practical power.
The science of philosophy studies the fundamentals of human thought and action. It asks and answers questions such as: What kind of world do I live in? Do I control my own destiny? What do I know? Can I prove it? What is the good? Should I be selfish and pursue my own interests, or should I devote myself to serving God or other people?
Her philosophy, Objectivism, holds that:
Reality exists as an objective absolute—facts are facts, independent of man’s feelings, wishes, hopes or fears. Reason (the faculty which identifies and integrates the material provided by man’s senses) is man’s only means of perceiving reality, his only source of knowledge, his only guide to action, and his basic means of survival.
Man—every man—is an end in himself, not the means to the ends of others. He must exist for his own sake, neither sacrificing himself to others nor sacrificing others to himself. The pursuit of his own rational self-interest and of his own happiness is the highest moral purpose of his life.
The ideal political-economic system is laissez-faire capitalism. It is a system where men deal with one another, not as victims and executioners, nor as masters and slaves, but as traders, by free, voluntary exchange to mutual benefit. It is a system where no man may obtain any values from others by resorting to physical force, and no man may initiate the use of physical force against others. The government acts only as a policeman that protects man’s rights; it uses physical force only in retaliation and only against those who initiate its use, such as criminals or foreign invaders. In a system of full capitalism, there should be (but, historically, has not yet been) a complete separation of state and economics, in the same way and for the same reasons as the separation of state and church.
Ok even I was a little surprised to see the institute recommend the following to be read:
The Virtue of Selfishness is a collection of essays presenting Ayn Rand’s radical moral code of rational selfishness and its opposition to the prevailing morality of altruism—i.e., to the duty to sacrifice for the sake of others.
She even wrote a book on parenting. WOW. yeah not on my reading list sorry.
ok i don't want to place a whole crap load of stuff on Ayn Rand here but this is very disturbing to me. Apparently I wasn't well versed in Rand I only knew the surface of what she was about. Now after finding her beliefs on sex, I'm very concerned about how much of this Amber Heard actually has taken into her soul. WOW, I agree Phigalily, if she's really into this, RUN JOHNNY!
Get this - Rand's views on sex: Sex is a physical capacity, but its exercise is determined by man’s mind—by his choice of values, held consciously or subconsciously. To a rational man, sex is an expression of self-esteem—a celebration of himself and of existence. To the man who lacks self-esteem, sex is an attempt to fake it, to acquire its momentary illusion.
Romantic love, in the full sense of the term, is an emotion possible only to the man (or woman) of unbreached self-esteem: it is his response to his own highest values in the person of another—an integrated response of mind and body, of love and sexual desire. Such a man (or woman) is incapable of experiencing a sexual desire divorced from spiritual values.
OH and one last thing, take note of this quote by Ayn Rand: "[The Native Americans] didn't have any rights to the land and there was no reason for anyone to grant them rights which they had not conceived and were not using.... What was it they were fighting for, if they opposed white men on this continent? For their wish to continue a primitive existence, their "right" to keep part of the earth untouched, unused and not even as property, just keep everybody out so that you will live practically like an animal, or maybe a few caves above it. Any white person who brought the element of civilization had the right to take over this continent." * Source: "Q and A session following her Address To The Graduating Class Of The United States Military Academy at West Point, New York, March 6, 1974"
Unless I'm very very wrong in my opinion since people have said Johnny is a great judge of character and maybe he knows Amber doesn't want anything serious. Maybe he doesn't either so ...........if he were to know that I could see why it wouldn't give him a self esteem boost to be dating her.
I don't know much about Ayn Rand's philosophy, but from what i read here and what i found on the net i'm a bit shocked. It will be interesting to see if Amber will correct/modify/explain her statements on Ayn Rand in her upcoming promo interviews.
Why wouldn't it give him a self esteem boost? I dun know I guess it still could but I was going off of Johnny liking commitments and falling so hard so fast and maybe if he knew she wasn't serious it may not. A kind of let down. Who knows. Anyway - if someone thinks she's gorgeous then it may be a self esteem boost, but her looks are subjective - which means it may not. If we truly take Johnny's words to heart that he sees more than beauty and "if you haven't got anything else to offer than looks, then who cares?" I could see why it wouldn't be a self esteem boost for him.
Some of the points on self-esteem you guys are making are a bit lost on me -- sorry if I'm not clear. We know enough about johnny's values it seems to me unlikely amber still feels so strongly about this stuff -- it's so polar opposite of all Johnny has always stood for. Can you honestly see him even superficially involved with someone who espouses this pineapple!!?!!
I did a little poking around and it seems an old boyfriend turned her on to Rand when she was 16 and what she's held on to is the atheism, which is fine with me. If she gets all "kill the poor and needy" I hope someone burns her down (metaphorically, of course)but I didn't find anything like that. Still.... Objectivism sucks ass.
Yeah, I mean, when were those quotes from-- maybe she was still pretty young when she spoke about this and hadn't thought things through?? Or she just latched onto the atheism as you say, and didn't really think about the rest, or maybe not until later.
Interesting that when I heard this mention, the first thing that popped into my head was that Patti Scialfa (aka Mrs. Springsteen) wrote a song called Atlas Shrugged. I don't think she was really thinking about the novel so much as the line, "Atlas shrugged under the weight of the world". The song remains unreleased, and it's actually a pretty good one. Here is a YouTube, and incidentally, the artwork they show, and the compilation it's for, I'm A Big Girl Now, was made by Yours Truly back in the day Or... does this work?
ETA- yay, we can still embed videos! Anyway, all to say that Springsteen (and probably Patti too) isn't exactly a follower of Rand's philosophies, either.